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Nivo Green
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Posted - 2013.09.29 02:55:00 -
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With EVE Online's coming expansion CCP has claimed that high sec custom offices will be able to be replaced with POCO. Many people have claimed that this is either stupid, as high sec resource harvesting sucks, or that the nullsec evil cartels will ruin the game. Regardless of these claims, there are still a ton of people fully living in high sec, and no doubt a large amount of higher tier PI production takes place in high sec around the hubs.
Until now this has always been NPC taxed as an isk sink, but with the coming change this will go away for all significant traffic highsec customs offices. My question to CCP is is this a significant ISK sink, and if it is what are they doing to counteract the loss of it if anything at all? If CCP thinks that there will be profitable customs offices, then they will be losing that tax with Rubicon. Looking at tier 4 PI components, there is about 500 billion ISK moved in that market a day globally, with about 45.9 billion moved daily in jita. Even if we only assumed 10% of this market was built in highsec planets, it still amounts to probably 25-50 billion isk a day which is getting taxed in highsec custom offices in t4 alone. Thats about 2.5 to 5 billion isk removed per day if its only 10%. This is not that significant at 10%, but I believe that quiet a lot more PI happens in high sec, and I did not even look at tier 2-3 products which are also likely produced.
Anyway CCP likely has much better data on this, and their choice to move forward with it likely means they either don't need the sink, or it's not that big of a deal.  |

Nivo Green
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:12:00 -
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Skill Training Online wrote:Your POCOs will be 100% safe in high-sec.
Perhaps CCP is just counting the ISK sink of buying new POCO BPC's to easily counteract the loss of taxes. I mean, there are a shitload of planets that will be getting new POCOs |

Nivo Green
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:18:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:The amount of wars that will be started by this is the isk sink. Mercs will have even more useful role in high sec, Killing Pocos will become big money.I for one will enjoy the local banter to become common around heavy traffic areas.
I agree, it will be awesome to see some real political landscape develop over the space the is High Sec. |

Nivo Green
Second Wallet
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:16:00 -
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So CCP announced that they are leaving the NPC tax on top of the new player tax so this isn't even a valid question anymore.
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Nivo Green
Stac Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.12.03 19:59:00 -
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Phinger wrote:I do just small PI work already custom office replaced with 35% Tax. Sorry my dabbling in PI is over. Defend it you say.....cant be bothered with our small corp. thanks CCP for removing more aspects of small player groups in this game.
your either a number in a big corp and can do whatever you want but if your small fry its not a sandbox to play in anymore
A couple of edit points:
- Sandbox doesnt mean you can do anything you want it means you can TRY to do anything you want
 - PI is not a small player group thing. It is a SOLO thing often involving alt hordes. Dont kid yourself because you were on teamspeak while doing PI
Since this got necro'd anyway I'll go ahead and introduce you to a magical place in eve called:
Its this amazing place in eve where small groups are capable of engaging in:
- Structure Building
- Home Defense
- Massive Carebearing
- Small and varying pvp options
- Exciting challenges
- Space Explosions
- and you guessed it - PI!
All while running far under the radar of "large groups" (also read the boogie goons ("grr") )
Every time a carebear cries about how their small corp can't compete with the big boys it makes me cringe a little. Would you go and try to wrestle a sumo wrestler? No im pretty sure if you wanted to wrestle you would find an organization that let you fight within your weight class. Here is a hint: if you want to do anything substantial as a small group in eve you need to go to wormholes. YOU will always be very vulnerable to larger more coordinated groups than yourself no matter where you go, but wormholes make it much harder to coordinate large groups in. |
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